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| Assunto: O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Qui Nov 12, 2009 9:43 pm | |
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Xbox ban: Gamers speak out Thousands of gamers may have been cut off from Microsoft's online gaming service Xbox Live for modifying their consoles to play pirated games.Online reports suggest that as many as 600,000 gamers may have been affected.Microsoft confirmed that it had banned a "small percentage" of the 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide. BBC website readers have been writing in with their reaction. Here is a selection of their comments. Read the full story Is this really an appropriate response, banning all modified consoles? There are legitimate and legal reasons why one might modify their console, such as using homebrew software created by independent developers. Matt Slater, Clitheroe, EnglandI bought an Xbox 360 Live from Ebay three months ago. I had no clue it might have been tampered with and it was sold with genuine games, I have since bought new games and played happily - until last night when I was told as I logged in that my console was banned because I'd broken the terms of the agreement. How would I have known if the console had been tampered with? I've started dispute procedures against the seller via Ebay, as far as I'm concerned the console wasn't advertised correctly! Billy, Sunderland, EnglandI think that this is a good thing. It makes the gamers that pay feel hard done by because we have obeyed the rules. This stops the cheats having an unfair advantage over others and the ban is deserved. SAS Jesse, Stoke on TrentThough I, like most Xbox users have not modified my console, I am concerned that the real reason for this disconnection is not to prevent the use of counterfeit games, but to preserve Microsoft's control of the market, so that it may charge publishers for the right to publish a game. Whilst this may seem fair enough, it does result in only "big hit" games being published, while smaller, often more interesting games, are only available on the PC or the somewhat overpriced Xbox Live arcade. I am concerned that Microsoft cannot satisfy itself with the Xbox live subscription charges, but sadly, the competitors (PS3 and WII) seem to use similar systems. Rory Yeung, Ipswich, SuffolkI am not an Xbox player but I get really annoyed that they go on about piracy, I have said many times that the only way to stop it is to bring the price of software down, its the same with Windows, far to expensive and too many versions. Games could be half the price and Microsoft would still make money. Bill Gates must be laughing on board his yacht. Peter, ReadingWell copying anything to make a profit is illegal but at the same time I'm tired of paying for a game, CD, movie, and getting a scratch just for the disc to be worthless. I'm already paying $59.99 for a game and I shouldn't have to pay a second time for something I already own because of a scratch or something. Let us copy our own games or at least get a replacement with out having to pay $59.99 again. Kevin, USAI don't even have an Xbox but one of the reasons I don't have one is because Microsoft do this. The modchips do have a legitimate use. You are allowed to back up CDs on your computer in case the CD becomes unplayable. Discs are very fragile things and some users like to have their games backed up. After all you will have paid £40 for a new disc. It is my opinion that once you buy a disc you should be allowed to do whatever you want with the media as long as you do not break copyright laws. Using copied discs to play games you have already paid for is not a violation of copyright, therefore Microsoft have no right to do this.
Donald Glass, AberdeenAlthough I do not condone piracy or own an Xbox, I totally disagree with Microsoft's response here. If I have purchased a product, I would expect to use is as I wished, if it invalidates my guarantee, so be it, but having paid good money for it, it is mine. The "big brother" attitude from large companies and others is not only an attack on our personal freedoms but also very, very frightening. Michael McIver, Hastings, EnglandMy Xbox 360 console was banned from Xbox Live last night. I purchased Modern Warfare 2 and went to play it but I had my Xbox chipped a month ago to play games that I wasn't prepared to pay £40 plus for. I was stupid and regret it now but I think the fact that so many people have been banned, highlights to the gaming industry that the costs of games is too high. As with music, film and games, the pirates will never go away, but for the majority of us who want to stay on the right side of the fence, the cost of games has to come down as it already has with music and film. BJ, UKIt's important to fight back against piracy, but not at the expense of the consumer. Everyone worth their weight in salt in the games industry knows that piracy is impossible to stop. But so long as it is guarded against responsibly, the publishers will make profit and more great games will keep getting made. As for Xbox banning consoles from Live, this can result in shortcomings for thousands of gamers who have been misunderstood by the team behind the service. Clement, Colchester - Citação :
- So, although bizarre and fucked up, the success of consoles here seems to be linked to piracy.
And, no surprise, the big number of "My 360 was banned!" posts in Brazilian forums. Followed by the "Fuck MS, I´ll buy a PS3 now!!!" rants. Followed by the "Ok, I´ll buy a new 360 to play MW2 online!" posts. - Citação :
Xbox gamer 'gutted' after cut off
Page last updated at 15:22 GMT, Wednesday, 11 November 2009
Tens of thousands of people have been cut off from playing their Xbox games online. Microsoft says they've banned certain gamers from their Xbox Live service because they may have been modifying or "chipping" their consoles to play pirated games. One Radio 1 listener Raz says he was gutted to be cut off just as he was about to play the new Call of Duty game.
"My name's Raz, I'm 25 years old, I'm a massive Xbox gamer. I play every day after work and all day on the weekends.
The Xbox for me is just about playing online, that's why I love it - well did!
It was a big day yesterday, the latest game we've been waiting months and months for. We've played the whole series and this one's come out, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.
Continue reading the main story To be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to Playstation 3 or buy another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really don't know if I'm going to get the Xbox again now Raz says he won't try to modify another games console
All loading up, everything's going well, I was happy. It came on to the start screen of Call of Duty and I thought, 'Do you know what, let me quickly sign in online'. I sign in online and next thing I see, 'Your console has been banned from Xbox'.
I was pretty distraught at the time, I can't remember exactly what it said but I saw the words 'banned' and I was gutted, completely gutted.
At first I was in shock, I mean it's always at the back of your head using pirate games you know there's that possibility but you haven't heard about it, there's been no warnings and you haven't heard it happen to anyone in the last two years.
I wasn't expecting it. I was just like, 'OK, what do I do now? Is this just a joke?' So I thought, 'Let me restart the Xbox'. I restarted, signed in again, same message. I did that three times, same message. I was pulling my hair out thinking, 'No, why me?'
It's like telling someone their dog's just died. It was pretty much like that for me. I love it, I love playing Xbox live. I play with my mates all the time. It's just a good laugh, we all sit there chatting, playing games. Now I don't know what to do.
Microsoft's banned a "small number" of 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide
I still think they should lower the prices. There are 16-year-old kids out there, they don't earn money so they go screaming to their parents saying, 'Can you buy me this game?'
Fair enough, one game once in a while but the amount of games coming out, good games, everyone wants to play them all. And for them to pay £50 a game?
I took it into a shop [the Xbox], there was a guy back there and I asked him and he did it for me [chipped it]. He charged £75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to myself I'll pay £75 to get it chipped, after two games I've paid the money back.
I've probably saved about £600 and I've copied roughly 30 or 40 games. A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves.
To be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to Playstation 3 or buy another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really don't know if I'm going to get the Xbox again now."
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- Pirates are so used to getting games for free on 360 that when MS bans
their system they would rather buy another more expensive (and, I believe, currently unhackable) console with a fundamentally different game library than just re-buy an Xbox and start, you know, actually paying for 360 games.
Is this a good example of cognitive dissonance? | |
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| Assunto: Re: O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Qui Nov 12, 2009 9:46 pm | |
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I do think a number of people will do this. It's not even that expensive of a transition if they can dump their banned 360 for $100.
| The only real logic I can see behind this is that the pirate can keep their banned 360 and play all offline games on it, and buy a PS3 and play online games on it without the XBL charge. In my opinion PSN doesn't compare equally to XBL, but perhaps for a lot of people piracy was offsetting the charge of XBL. In effect you still have 2 systems, even if one is gimped. Microsoft have obviously morally and legally made the right move by banning these boxes, but it may backfire on them to some extent. For a lot of people it will come down to how many people in their online community make the switch.
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EduTheMan
| Assunto: Re: O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Sex Nov 13, 2009 1:30 am | |
| veio o mw2 vieram logo todos sacá-lo, ora foi obvio, mw2 é um dos melhores jogos de 2009 e adiantes | |
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Jeremias25
| Assunto: Re: O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Sex Nov 13, 2009 4:00 am | |
| Kevin, USAI don't even have an Xbox but one of the reasons I don't have one is because Microsoft do this. The modchips do have a legitimate use.
Youare allowed to back up CDs on your computer in case the CD becomes unplayable. Discs are very fragile things and some users like to have their games backed up. After all you will have paid £40 for a new disc.
It is my opinion that once you buy a disc you should be allowed to do whatever you want with the media as long as you do not break copyright laws. Using copied discs to play games you have already paid for is not a violation of copyright, therefore Microsoft have no right to do this.
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Como não existe uma forma de controlar 20 Milhões de utilizadores para ver se usam cópias de jogos que eles compraram... banem tudo o que esteja modificado...paga o justo pelo pecador... | |
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