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Citação :


Xbox ban: Gamers speak out

Thousands
of gamers may have been cut off from Microsoft's online gaming service
Xbox Live for modifying their consoles to play pirated games.
Online reports suggest that as many as 600,000 gamers may have been affected.Microsoft confirmed that it had banned a "small percentage" of the 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide. BBC website readers have been writing in with their reaction. Here is a selection of their comments.

Read the full story

Is this really an appropriate response, banning all
modified consoles? There are legitimate and legal reasons why one might
modify their console, such as using homebrew software created by
independent developers.
Matt Slater, Clitheroe, EnglandI
bought an Xbox 360 Live from Ebay three months ago. I had no clue it
might have been tampered with and it was sold with genuine games, I
have since bought new games and played happily - until last night when
I was told as I logged in that my console was banned because I'd broken
the terms of the agreement. How would I have known if the console had
been tampered with? I've started dispute procedures against the seller
via Ebay, as far as I'm concerned the console wasn't advertised
correctly!
Billy, Sunderland, EnglandI think
that this is a good thing. It makes the gamers that pay feel hard done
by because we have obeyed the rules. This stops the cheats having an
unfair advantage over others and the ban is deserved.
SAS Jesse, Stoke on TrentThough
I, like most Xbox users have not modified my console, I am concerned
that the real reason for this disconnection is not to prevent the use
of counterfeit games, but to preserve Microsoft's control of the
market, so that it may charge publishers for the right to publish a
game. Whilst this may seem fair enough, it does result in only "big
hit" games being published, while smaller, often more interesting
games, are only available on the PC or the somewhat overpriced Xbox
Live arcade. I am concerned that Microsoft cannot satisfy itself with
the Xbox live subscription charges, but sadly, the competitors (PS3 and
WII) seem to use similar systems.
Rory Yeung, Ipswich, SuffolkI
am not an Xbox player but I get really annoyed that they go on about
piracy, I have said many times that the only way to stop it is to bring
the price of software down, its the same with Windows, far to expensive
and too many versions. Games could be half the price and Microsoft
would still make money. Bill Gates must be laughing on board his yacht.
Peter, ReadingWell
copying anything to make a profit is illegal but at the same time I'm
tired of paying for a game, CD, movie, and getting a scratch just for
the disc to be worthless. I'm already paying $59.99 for a game and I
shouldn't have to pay a second time for something I already own because
of a scratch or something. Let us copy our own games or at least get a
replacement with out having to pay $59.99 again.
Kevin, USAI
don't even have an Xbox but one of the reasons I don't have one is
because Microsoft do this. The modchips do have a legitimate use. You
are allowed to back up CDs on your computer in case the CD becomes
unplayable. Discs are very fragile things and some users like to have
their games backed up. After all you will have paid £40 for a new disc.
It is my opinion that once you buy a disc you should be allowed to do
whatever you want with the media as long as you do not break copyright
laws. Using copied discs to play games you have already paid for is not
a violation of copyright, therefore Microsoft have no right to do this.

Donald Glass, AberdeenAlthough I do not
condone piracy or own an Xbox, I totally disagree with Microsoft's
response here. If I have purchased a product, I would expect to use is
as I wished, if it invalidates my guarantee, so be it, but having paid
good money for it, it is mine. The "big brother" attitude from large
companies and others is not only an attack on our personal freedoms but
also very, very frightening.
Michael McIver, Hastings, EnglandMy
Xbox 360 console was banned from Xbox Live last night. I purchased
Modern Warfare 2 and went to play it but I had my Xbox chipped a month
ago to play games that I wasn't prepared to pay £40 plus for. I was
stupid and regret it now but I think the fact that so many people have
been banned, highlights to the gaming industry that the costs of games
is too high. As with music, film and games, the pirates will never go
away, but for the majority of us who want to stay on the right side of
the fence, the cost of games has to come down as it already has with
music and film.
BJ, UKIt's important to fight
back against piracy, but not at the expense of the consumer. Everyone
worth their weight in salt in the games industry knows that piracy is
impossible to stop. But so long as it is guarded against responsibly,
the publishers will make profit and more great games will keep getting
made. As for Xbox banning consoles from Live, this can result in
shortcomings for thousands of gamers who have been misunderstood by the
team behind the service.
Clement, Colchester

Citação :
So, although bizarre and fucked up, the success of consoles here seems to be linked to piracy.
And, no surprise, the big number of "My 360 was banned!" posts in Brazilian forums. O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Laugh
Followed by the "Fuck MS, I´ll buy a PS3 now!!!" rants. O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Laugh O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Laugh
Followed by the "Ok, I´ll buy a new 360 to play MW2 online!" posts. O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Laugh O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Laugh O que achaste da BAN WAVE da XBOX360? Laugh

Citação :

Xbox gamer 'gutted' after cut off



Page last updated at 15:22 GMT, Wednesday, 11 November 2009







Tens
of thousands of people have been cut off from playing their Xbox games
online. Microsoft says they've banned certain gamers from their Xbox
Live service because they may have been modifying or "chipping" their
consoles to play pirated games. One Radio 1 listener Raz says he was
gutted to be cut off just as he was about to play the new Call of Duty
game.



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"My name's Raz, I'm 25 years old, I'm a massive Xbox gamer. I play every day after work and all day on the weekends.



The Xbox for me is just about playing online, that's why I love it - well did!



It was a big day yesterday, the latest game we've
been waiting months and months for. We've played the whole series and
this one's come out, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.


Continue reading the main story

To
be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to Playstation 3 or buy
another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really don't know if I'm
going to get the Xbox again now
Raz says he won't try to modify another games console







All loading up, everything's going well, I was
happy. It came on to the start screen of Call of Duty and I thought,
'Do you know what, let me quickly sign in online'. I sign in online and
next thing I see, 'Your console has been banned from Xbox'.


I was pretty distraught at the time, I can't
remember exactly what it said but I saw the words 'banned' and I was
gutted, completely gutted.


At first I was in shock, I mean it's always at the
back of your head using pirate games you know there's that possibility
but you haven't heard about it, there's been no warnings and you
haven't heard it happen to anyone in the last two years.


I wasn't expecting it. I was just like, 'OK, what
do I do now? Is this just a joke?' So I thought, 'Let me restart the
Xbox'. I restarted, signed in again, same message. I did that three
times, same message. I was pulling my hair out thinking, 'No, why me?'


It's like telling someone their dog's just died. It
was pretty much like that for me. I love it, I love playing Xbox live.
I play with my mates all the time. It's just a good laugh, we all sit
there chatting, playing games. Now I don't know what to do.



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Microsoft's banned a "small number" of 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide


I
still think they should lower the prices. There are 16-year-old kids
out there, they don't earn money so they go screaming to their parents
saying, 'Can you buy me this game?'


Fair enough, one game once in a while but the
amount of games coming out, good games, everyone wants to play them
all. And for them to pay £50 a game?


I took it into a shop [the Xbox], there was a guy
back there and I asked him and he did it for me [chipped it]. He
charged £75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to
myself I'll pay £75 to get it chipped, after two games I've paid the
money back.


I've probably saved about £600 and I've copied
roughly 30 or 40 games. A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off
friends that have downloaded themselves.


To be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to
Playstation 3 or buy another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really
don't know if I'm going to get the Xbox again now."






Citação :
Pirates are so used to getting games for free on 360 that when MS bans
their system they would rather buy another more expensive (and, I
believe, currently unhackable) console with a fundamentally different
game library than just re-buy an Xbox and start, you know, actually
paying for 360 games.

Is this a good example of cognitive dissonance?
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I do think a number of people will do this. It's not even that expensive
of a transition if they can dump their banned 360 for $100.

The only real logic I can see behind this is that the pirate can keep
their banned 360 and play all offline games on it, and buy a PS3 and
play online games on it without the XBL charge. In my opinion PSN
doesn't compare equally to XBL, but perhaps for a lot of people piracy
was offsetting the charge of XBL. In effect you still have 2 systems,
even if one is gimped. Microsoft have obviously morally and legally
made the right move by banning these boxes, but it may backfire on them
to some extent. For a lot of people it will come down to how many
people in their online community make the switch.










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veio o mw2 vieram logo todos sacá-lo, ora foi obvio, mw2 é um dos melhores jogos de 2009 e adiantes
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Kevin, USAI
don't even have an Xbox but one of the reasons I don't have one is
because Microsoft do this. The modchips do have a legitimate use.

Youare allowed to back up CDs on your computer in case the CD becomes unplayable. Discs are very fragile things and some users like to have their games backed up. After all you will have paid £40 for a new disc.

It is my opinion that once you buy a disc you should be allowed to do whatever you want with the media as long as you do not break copyright laws. Using copied discs to play games you have already paid for is not a violation of copyright, therefore Microsoft have no right to do this.


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Como não existe uma forma de controlar 20 Milhões de utilizadores para ver se usam cópias de jogos que eles compraram... banem tudo o que esteja modificado...paga o justo pelo pecador...
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